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sage ([personal profile] sage) wrote in [community profile] boilingwater2010-07-09 05:46 pm

beans!

Dear cooks who know more than me,

I've been cooking with dry beans for the last some-odd months to save money and reduce exposure to harmful toxins and such. The cookbooks say:

1. soak beans 8 hrs or overnight.
2. parboil soaked (rinsed, drained) beans at a rolling boil for 10-12 minutes.
3. rinse and cover with fresh water and simmer for 45 minutes to an hour or more, depending on the kind of bean.

Got it. The thing is, after I parboil? I simmer for 25 minutes and the beans are done!

I'm generally cooking one cup of any of these varieties: black, pinto, lima, rattlesnake, kidney, or small red. Chickpeas and chana dal take longer -- much closer to what directions indicate.

Why are my beans done so fast? If I look away for like, a minute, they get mushy and/or burn to the bottom of the pot.

Also, I'm at practically sea level, whatever San Antonio is at, if that matters.

I am so confused. I mean, they taste okay, but I keep thinking I must be doing something wrong! Help?

Thank you!
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[personal profile] serene 2010-07-09 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Different beans take different times. Don't pay attention to times in recipes, except as estimates. Black and pintos and most other small beans cook quickly. Chickpeas take forever. You're doing it right.
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[personal profile] jd 2010-07-10 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Just as a general note - usually elevation doesn't matter in cooking unless you're over 3000 feet (SA is about 600-800 ish. Start going any further west, though, and you'll run into it.)

Have you checked the directions on the bags of beans themselves? Sometimes they can give a more precise time estimate.
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[personal profile] leanne 2010-07-10 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
What everyone else said, plus:

Fresher beans cook faster. So -- this is really good! You're getting high-quality fresh beans, rather than old beans.

I looked at how you're prepping the beans as well, and you're doing a lot of things that will make them cook faster. Soaking overnight is one of those steps, but parboiling is also one of those steps. Typically, I'll skip the soak-overnight step, boil my beans for about five minutes, let sit for an hour, drain, add fresh water, and then cook for about two to three hours.

So yeah, you're fine! (:
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[personal profile] libitina 2010-07-10 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
I also learned this year that means are very sensitive to pH. The more basic your cooking liquid, the faster beans turn to mush. And at a certain acidity, you can cook them forever and they will always be distinct beans that don't break down.
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[personal profile] gchick 2010-07-11 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
So, first, I learned the soak and parboil as an either/or thing -- either you soak 'em overnight, or if you don't have time to do that, you can do the boil thing instead.

And second, I never bother to do either step. I just start with clean picked-over beans and cook them until the taste and texture is what I want. Just use the cooking time in your step 3 as a guideline, and then taste them. Bigger beans take longer than smaller ones, but there's absolutely nothing you can do wrong by changing the time (although if you're burning them, use way more water than you are now) -- if they taste okay, they're done.

I suspect that all those old rules came from that era in American cooking when beans were feared because being in the same room with one might have once made someone fart, and when all vegetable matter was to be boiled into mush and submission.
Edited (typing is hard!) 2010-07-11 14:25 (UTC)